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Black Americans according to the census report numbers 41 million people. Everyone throughout the world basically knows the common history of Black Americans; especially from the Dr. King era seen on all television sets throughout the world as did the tragedy of the Black Chicago youth killed by Blacks just a few weeks ago. Now, who would contest that Black Americans being former slaves are basically without an inborn common thread that could tie us together to have one common cause as other highly intelligent developed races has? For instance, White American people, the Jewish race, the German race, the Chinese race and the Japanese race has this inborn common thread that binds them together as one race of people and naturally, they are a highly developed intelligent race. Am I correct? Now, since Black Americans does not have this common thread could this be the reason why we kill each other and have 41 million different solutions to resolve our problems? Of course, having 41 million different solutions to our problems causes the entire world population to shake their heads at Black Americans expressing pity. Am I right again? So, as a general question, what does any intelligent one of you out there believes will become of Black Americans a hundred years from today? I asked this fundamental question since none of us at the moment wants to have complete independence or become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders since God is willing to aid us? Tell me what you think.
Posted By: Harry Watley
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 7:20AM
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Harry,
Thank You
SlaveAmerican descendants living in American 100years from Today, will be:
1) 75% will have Hussein or Baraka as a Part of their Identity-
2) 85% will have Obama or Mohamed as a Part of their Identity.
3) .001 will have Harry or King as a Part of their Identity.
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 11:06AM
robert powell
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Jeremy, you do know you spend way too much time studying one book, don't you? You also know the so-called Holy Bible is complete fiction don't you? Nah, you don't, but trust me, it is.
Harry, you do know basic, first grade plural/singular subject/verb usage, don't you? You guys should spend some quality time reading some quality books.
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 2:20PM
Craig Amos
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Hello Harry,
In a hundred years there will be less to distinguish black Americans from white Americans. That's the most I can prophesy.
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 3:18PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Robert,
I do not think you really understand and you do not have good will towards Black Americans. I also see that you are really psyched up on President Barack Obama.
You are not ready to talk with sense.
Tell me what you think
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 6:25PM
Harry Watley
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Harry,
Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama is the only Sovereign that America needs right now.---I am presently living in America and I do understand America and your Blog title asked what would be the State of BIA in 100 years?
Based on MultiMedia, Historical Precedence and a Movement toward Truth I gave my thoughts---maybe I messed up a little on the .001%---having Harry Identity; maybe .068% cause the King of England-Sovereign of the United Kingdom will be King Harry in a couple of years.
Harry, Where do you find Ziglar?---He or them, always disappear into the desert when I ask for some Scholarship----Thank You Craig and Steve---
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 6:34PM
robert powell
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Hello Mr. Jeremy,
You said this, “Harry: The so-called Black Americans are going to inherit the entire earth, not some portion of the North American Continent with secure borders.”
Jeremy, let us be sensible with each other. The world is too large for Black Americans to inherit. In addition, other races occupy their portion. For instance, you would not logically expect that Black Americans would inherit China, which belongs to the Chinese people?
You said this, “…….Chinese (Moabites), so called Caucasian Jews (Khazars), Japanese (Ammonites), Germans (Ashkanazites). However the ONLY REASON they have power over the so-called Black Americans (decendants of Black Hebrews) because we defiled the laws and statutues of the Most High.”
Jeremy, the only people that has Black Americans subjugated is White American people. Since, Black Americans were born into slavery is not possible that we could have defied any laws and statues of God. You are simply out of your mind.
You said this, “I will prove it with the Bible which you claim that you know very well. ISAIAH 40: 14-17”
Jeremy, I told you before that the Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people. Now, we know that Moses instituted the ritual of the Passover. The practice that Moses instituted about Passover is the same way the people in the state of Israel today practices this ritual Passover. It was handed down to the descendents of Moses residing in the state of Israel over 4000 years ago and not to any Black American that you referred to as Hebrew. Jeremy, you are losing your mental reasoning the more you continue to poison your mind with your nonsense. In addition, Jeremy, you can use the very same book that belongs to the Jewish people to prove your fantasies. You need an independent source. The things you are talking about that are written in the Bible were long before Black Americans who are descendents of slaves existed. The race of Black Americans is approximately 500 years old.
Anyway, do you not think that this earth is too large for 41 million Black Americans who had descendents of slaves to inherit?
What say you?
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 6:59PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Amos,
You asked this question, “Harry, you do know basic, first grade plural/singular subject/verb usage, don't you?”
Amos, I do the best that I could. I was never good, as I would like to have been when I went to school and college. However, my aim is to be understood.
Anyway, what do you suppose the future of Black Americans will be a hundred years from today? Would we be worse than we are now? Would we be better than we are now? Or, would we be a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity as I have been advocating and promoting?
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 7:06PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Steve,
I do not quite understand what you mean that there would be less to distinguish Black Americans from White Americans. What do you mean by saying that?
What say you?
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 7:09PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Robert,
As I said, as long as you are hyped up on President Obama you are not going to make sense about anything else. President Obama is always your answer to any question I ask. I had asked you what do you suppose would be the fate of America after President Obama leaves office. You never answered that question for me.
Now, about Mr. Jeremy, Ziglar and Hasan, these people are a one-man show.
What say you?
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 7:21PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Harry,
What I mean is a number of things. First, there will be a continuing trend towards intermarriage of persons with diverse ancestry, so that it will become harder to tell a person's ancestry by sight. Second, there will be more equal justice, more equal education, more equal economy. I'm not saying things will be perfect in 100 years, but so-called race relations will continue to improve.
I come to this conclusion because before I wrote my response, I did a little research on conditions 100 years ago.
1909
Feb. 12 - The forerunner of the NAACP - the National Negro Committee - is founded on the 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln's birth.
Some 69 African Americans are known to have been lynched in 1909.
Some 67 African Americans are known to have been lynched in 1910.
1911
June 20 - The NAACP is formally incorporated in New York.
Oct. - The National Urban League, organized to help African Americans find jobs, is founded.
Some 60 African Americans are known to have been lynched in 1911.
Some 61 African Americans are known to have been lynched in 1912.
Some 51 African Americans are known to have been lynched in 1913.
Some 51 African Americans are known to have been lynched in 1914.
Some 56 African Americans are known to have been lynched in 1915.
1916
NAACP forms anti-lynching committee to compile facts and end the widespread brutality against African Americans.
Some 51 African Americans are known to have been lynched in 1916.
Some 36 African Americans are known to have been lynched in 1917.
Some 60 African Americans are known to have been lynched in 1918.
1919
May - The NAACP steps up its anti-lynching crusade by holding a conference at Carnegie Hall in New York. A month earlier, the NAACP publishes and distributes "Thirty Years of Lynching," documenting the atrocities from 1889-1918.
Some 76 African Americans are known to have been lynched in 1919.
1929
Now 20 years in existence, the NAACP shifts its emphasis away from concerns about racial brutality as lynchings decline, and redirects its resources on the right to vote, residential segregation and employment discrimination.
I could go on Harry, but I hope you get my point.
Source: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa38...
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 8:56PM
Steve Williams
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Who says Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama will leave office?
America is a Democracy.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt a Sovereign in a WheelChair was American President from 1933-1945---
He was asked to be President at the height of the Great Depression.---
He is thought to have saved America Economics and ended its Wars in the World.
Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama has turned the corner on "Greatest Financial Meltdown since The Depression".---
He is ending, "The War on Terror"; the 'Iraq War'; and soon the 'Afghanistan War'----
I am an America that believes that if America can stand an Actor Reagan for 8 years, an Adulterer Clinton in the Ova office for 8years and finally a Bushy Moron for 8 years then surely The Greatest President America has EVER produced can get 16 years.
I am an American who would Vote to change the Law against limits; Are'nt You? BIA?
Yes, Harry I want a Sovereign; President Baraka Hussein Obama!
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 9:15PM
robert powell
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Robert, I've long been against the law on limits.
And thanks for reminding me - how could I forget to add on my timeline - 100 years after the founding of the NAACP, the first African American to become President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama. They could not foresee back then what would be the end of their efforts, but they fought for what was right, and still we shall.
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 9:49PM
Steve Williams
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Good Point Steve,
We need to be able to get something Scholastic from our time with Harry.
Sunday, October 18th 2009 at 9:59PM
robert powell
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Hello Steve,
Yes, I do get your point Steve. What I see is that Black Americans are paying the cost to moralize and civilize White American people with their lives and sufferings getting to some magic point that everything is going to be all right if we just stick with it long enough.
Now, let me present Moses predicament as a case of precedence. Since millions upon millions of Jewish people today in the state of Israel believe the story of Moses and I do would naturally buffer the argument that I am out of my mind to believe that God would do for Black Americans what was done for the Hebrew people while they were in Egypt. Dr. King said he saw the Promised Land and that Black Americans as a people would get to that Promise Land and that Promised Land was a portion of this continent that presently White America controls.
Since God have intervened that Black Americans who are descendents of slaves would come a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders, why would we continue our subjugation evening as our suffering diminishes according to your stats? Do you not think that God’s offer to make us a sovereign people is rational over continuing our subjugation?
Now, supposing you were Moses and some Egyptian ran your line of rationale on you as you are running it on me would you accept it in place of the Exodus? If you do, you would be the biggest jackass that ever lived, am I right.
However, that is not all of it. Even if White America would decide to give Black Americans everything and more, I would turn it down and this is why. Black Americans must brave the natural obstacles that nature constantly hurls at any sovereign country and its people to stay completely independent. This experience Black Americans does not have. In addition, this experience is something that White America could not give to Black Americans; it must be earned. Black Americans must experience the joy of overcoming any challenges and calamities as well as experience the sorrow of temporary setbacks. This type of experience provides a race of people with good growth and development.
Steve, Black Americans wants to be free. We want White America to have their own, as we want to have our own.
Now, do you understand my point, as I understood yours?
Tell me what you think.
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 12:47AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jeremy,
Jeremy the problem with you is that you just say things and that is all right. However, when you are asked to substantiate what you say you cannot do it. Consequentially, you are simply blowing foul gas out of your behind.
For instance, I have constantly been asking you to show how you could conclude that Black Americans who are descendents of slaves are Black Hebrews mentioned in the Bible in the book of Exodus. The race of Black Americans who are descendents of slaves I just about 500 years old. I told you that the race Black Americans is a result of the breeding process lasting for over 300 years between White men mostly of British descent in the first wave of African slave women purchased from the slave traders. How could it be possible that Black Americans stretches all the way back to ancient Egypt? I am axing you to present a logical and rational case to substantiate your claims and you are not able to do that.
Okay, let me ask you this question. What ever became of Black Americans Moses?
All that you do is write a long list that says the tribe of Judah is Black Americans. The Levi tribe is the Haitian people. You are simply making claims and not showing any rationale to back up your claims. That is the problem that I have with you.
Every claim that I would make, I backs it up.
Tell me what you think.
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 1:01AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Robert,
Robert I understand what she was saying. However, the present law is those eight years in office and no more. Therefore, my question to you still stands. What is going to happen to Black and White America once President Obama leaves office since you see President Obama as your Lord and Savior?
You could not very well expect me to have anything to say when the present law of eight years being the limit has not been repealed. Do I make any sense with you?
I believe that White people in general have a lot more intellectual wisdom than you and Steve have. If there were, no limit for a president to be in office this government would be a dictatorship instead of a democracy. In addition, if Mr. Bush had more than eight years this country would totally be ruined. Am I making any sense?
Tell me what you think.
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 1:20AM
Harry Watley
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I can tell you what the future will bring for African Americans.
First off, The world is now is trouble and this is way beyond AA but since you're so concerned here's what will happen.
The Apololyapse is here. The world will engage in the most terrible war and with the most terrible weapons ever! This is just a few years from now during Obama's 2nd term the final years.
America will become a country pretty much like groups of states banding together to form a small country that will still be apart of the whole U.S. The constitution itself will no longer be the driving force it's whatever your regional power considers the law. The system of the U.S is not failing it's the failure of the people of the U.S to follow it and make their government and those rich elites follow it. It's laws are averted by the rich and wealthy especialy it's tax laws and employment laws that allow illegals to get jobs over citizenships to underplay Unions. Civil unrest will begin soon as the economy will falter in about 2013. By 1214 we will be way into World War 3.
The future of AA's during this time is that most will starve, get killed in riots, sent to concentration camps and prisons where death awaits and the rise up AA's to claim portions of this land for ourselves. This will come as a natural solution to the unfairness that will break the backs of AA's as everyone else will seem to handle the change quite well while we are largely unprepared and the most disorganized group in America. Even Mexicans have their own food stores where in as many times there's not a Black supermarket for 100's of miles near any of you!
Yet we will have our own country and we will be given guns by whites to protect ourselves in the future. Some of the people trying to subject us to cruelty will our own and we will be fighting in our communities too! Against gangters, thugs, gangs, rogue muslims and church organizations and other self interest groups. But if you can't feed and protect for your family then you need to join a larger group even if you disagree with them some what. Being alone during the coming times will no longer be an option! Period!
Africa will plunge into total darkness during the Apolcalyspe. With all the social problems and fales lines drawn by Europeans Africans have a huge problem. Until they admit they started the slave trade and deal with their bloody and guilt ridden past nothing Africa does will ever prosper. The richest continent in the world will stay in darkness until AA's began to rise up and look back unto Africa to help it out of it's despair. That's where we will shine as we were hauled off in chains we will come back glorious! This is the prophecy of truth.
Have a great and blessed day!
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 5:33AM
John Washington
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Hello Harry,
Yes I see your point, and you made your point without hardly referring to yourself, as you also did in your following comments to Jeremy and Robert. I think you will get your points across better if you keep on this way.
I am moved by the way you put it "What I see is that Black Americans are paying the cost to moralize and civilize White American people with their lives and sufferings getting to some magic point that everything is going to be all right if we just stick with it long enough."
I am simply saying what I see as the future based on the reality that I see. I understand your desire, but understand that everyone here desires to see the world put right, just different ideas about how to achieve it.
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 5:56AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Mr. Washington,
Your post reads as a science fiction novel or movie for entertainment. Anyway, do you have anything of relevancy to base your comment on? Furthermore, what is an Apololyapse?
Please explain.
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 8:50AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Steve,
Well Steve I have no control over the world, but I do have control over Black Americans, if you will. Just as Moses did not have control over the world in his day and time, but he had control over his people since God had anointed him as I am anointed as well.
Therefore, I am not interested in fixing the world. I am interested in permanently fixing the problems of Black Americans. White America insidious suppression and subjugates Black Americans today.
White Americans have always been at the helm of Black Americans problems since White America enslaved Black Americans. However, at the same time White America hoodwinks Black Americans that they are helping Black Americans to resolve their problems, which were created and continue to be created by White America.
For instance, Mr. Newt Gingrich a White American traveling around the country with Rev. Al Sharpton who is a Black American on a quest of fixing the White American educational system.
I would suppose that had Black Americans time not come that God anoint me I would be thinking as Rev. Al Sharpton is. The same would be true of Moses that had not God anointed Moses, Moses would be sorry for the condition of his people but would be hoping for the best when there is really no best unless God rescues his people from the oppression and slavery of his people by Pharaoh. Am I making any sense with you Steve?
Steve, Black Americans only permanent solution is to become a sovereign people and have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders for the reasons I have repeatedly been giving.
Tell me what you think.
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 9:31AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jeremy,
You said this, “Particularly Harry, he wants me to back up my claim with supporting texts from the whiteman's library. He should research the information himself and prove me wrong. I told Harry many times I will not help him do the research, “
Mr. Jeremy you have things backwards. This is the way things works. When you make a claim, it is not up to the opposing party to prove you wrong. Instead, it is up to you to prove yourself right when you make these claims by having independent corroboration materials. Incidentally, your collaborating independent materials do not necessarily have to come from “The White Man’s Library”.
For instance, suppose your claims are nothing but fabricated lies for entertainment purposes. By your way of thinking, you would have me on a wild goose chase trying to prove you wrong. Now, if you never made the claims in the first place I would not be on a wild goose chase. However, if you have corroborating material to back your claims of with, then I have something to research to prove you wrong if I disagree with you.
Consequentially, that is the problem that I have with you, is that you make claims and do not back them up. For instance, you say that Black Americans are the tribe of Judah, which the common acceptable knowledge is the tribe of Judah is one of the 12 tribes of Israel. Therefore, what I am asking you to do is to show how Black Americans suddenly became one of the tribes of ancient Israel. Please do this for me.
What say you?
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 10:00AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jeremy,
My question does not hinge Puerto Ricans or Cubans. I want to know how it is that you could fit Black Americans who are descendents of slaves into the history of ancient Israel to say that Black Americans are the tribe of Judah.
Black Americans existence was born out of the breeding process between White men mostly of British descent in the first wave of African female slaves purchased from the slave traders on this continent approximately 500 years ago.
I would like you to make sense out of your claims that Black Americans are the tribe of Judah when it is common knowledge that the name Judah is one of the ancient tribes of Israel and the people in the state of Israel today are the descendents of ancient Israel.
What say you?
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 11:40AM
Harry Watley
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/*
Gentlemen! "WE ARE ALL HEBREW!" I am certainly moved by this dialogue. You have all proven to be the most intelligent Black Men that I've encountered in a long while. Discussion is great...it teaches, it enlightens, it opens eyes and ears, it also can create divisiveness. Be aware that we all, as Black People, share the brunt of these United States.
I would hope to think that we will have sovereignty...Obama is a step in the right direction...don't you all agree? The races have been mixing since the beginning of time. Yes, we have major problems...should we not start to correct them by and/or with solutions? WE ARE A PROUD PEOPLE...A SURVIVING PEOPLE...and WE WILL HAVE WHAT GOD HAS INTENDED FOR US TO HAVE!!!
Our opinions are just and profound as we attempt to justify and ratify our cause. I would hope that one day - SOON - we wil stop killing each other and start to value our worth as we pass it on to our descendents as did others who respect us... and those that do not. Those that do not...intend for us to kill ourselves off, thus they would inherite the Earth...as planned.
WE AND GOD WILL CHANGE THAT PLAN;... "A New World Order!"
Peace and Love to YOU ALL, My Beautiful Brothers,
Greg.
gvb1210me@yahoo.com
http://www.BoulwareEnterprises.com
View:
“The Eye of Cain”
http://theeyeofcain.blogspot.com/2009/10/e...
(posted on BIA as well)
and
"Color of The Cross" - (Yashua depicted in the Correct Color)
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Monday, October 19th 2009 at 12:50PM
Gregory V. Boulware, Esq.
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Hello Mr. Clark,
You said this, “The resulting melting pot and the distance of time will be such that there will be even more blurring between the races.”
It seems to me that if the entire race of Black Americans disappears into nothingness it would not bother you while other races could not imagine the thought of them disappearing.
For instance, if you travel to Little Havana in Florida and closely observed the Cuban people you would see how proud they are to be Cubans. Now, if you ask any one of them what they think of the future for the Cuban people would be in the next hundred years, I would bet my life that those Cuban people would say Cubans would be number one.
Mr. Clarke, you and all Black Americans who are descendents of slaves needs the help of God to survive another hundred years. I say that because your prognosis for yourself and Black Americans is that we become more blurry or a nothingness people than we are today. Therefore, our survival does not look too good if you had anything to do with it.
Pity for Black Americans from your point of view.
Mr. Clark, I do not want Black Americans to disappear or become more blurring between the races. I love who I am and what we are and you should too.
Tell me what you think.
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 6:32PM
Harry Watley
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Jeremy, I have not been able to substantiate your claims. It is true that Columbus had a Hebrew interpreter, but this was because he expected to find India and thought he might find Jewish traders there.
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 6:33PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Mr. Gregory,
You said this, “Gentlemen! "WE ARE ALL HEBREW!”
Mr. Gregory, please explain how you figure that Black Americans who are descendents of slaves are Hebrew people. I do not understand why you would say that, so please educate me.
Thank you.
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 6:36PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Mr. Gene Brown,
You said this, “Black Americans inhibited Libera since 1848”
Now, around 1848 Black Americans who are descendents of slaves went to Africa to settle on a portion of land and merge themselves with the native Africans. But, today those Black Americans are Liberian people. They are not Black as Black Americans who still are descendents of slaves here in White America today.
Not all Black people or dark skinned people are the same people. Not all Caucasian people are the same White people. Not all blackbirds are Crow birds; some are Raven birds.
Mr. Brown you should be aspiring that Black Americans become a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity.
I assure you Black Americans will become a sovereign people as the children of Israel were lifted out of the hands of Pharaoh to become a sovereign people in the land of Canaan.
Tell me what you think.
Monday, October 19th 2009 at 6:50PM
Harry Watley
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/*
My Suggestion is to start with 'Abraham'...or the sons of 'Noah!' It is my understanding and belief that 'Black People' are the first People...Children of Israel speaking several tongues...the 12 Tribes of Israel...The dark ones being 'Hebrew.'
Should I be incorrect? If so, I choose to believe that I, We, as Black People are GOD's chosen people..."Hebrew!" Like others choose to believe in religion, I choose to believe in Israelite Hebrewism...religion is man-made.
Thank You Sir,
SANKOFA and Peace Be Unto You,
Greg.
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Tuesday, October 20th 2009 at 12:54AM
Gregory V. Boulware, Esq.
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A "True Black"; has to be Defined in the Mindset of A EuropeanSlaver Racialist of the 13th Century----.
They made up this Divisive classification of the descendants of Adaam.
Black/White is a term first used 800 years ago to Divide Adaams Decendants.
I prefer to use EuropeanMadness Racialism to describe it.
Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama is asking the "children" to Grow Up and Change.---I choose to follow President Baraka Hussein Obama, the Greatest EuropeanAmerican Leader since the 12th Century.
Tuesday, October 20th 2009 at 8:26AM
robert powell
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Hello Mr. Gregory,
Okay, you gave me this answer to my question, “My Suggestion is to start with 'Abraham'...or the sons of 'Noah!' It is my understanding and belief that 'Black People' are the first People…”
Well Gregory, suppose you and I first come to an understanding as to who Black Americans are since not all Black people are the same people. For instance, not all blackbirds are the same birds. Some of those blackbirds are crows and some are ravens. Likewise, Ethiopian people are not the same people as Nigerian people, am I right? Therefore, let you and I come to understand who Black Americans are.
I believe that Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. History showed that White men for the most part bred themselves with the African slave women they purchased from the slave traders. This breeding process lasted from the beginning of slavery to the 18th century. When this breeding process ended Black Americans, who are descendents of slaves numbered well over 20 million and that is why we are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. Black Americans are not Africans, Caucasians or just ordinary Black people as you referred. For instance, the children of President Thomas Jefferson’s slave woman, Ms. Sally Hemming had is an example of who Black Americans are. Again, Black Americans are people that emerged out of the ashes of slavery.
Consequentially, Black Americans who are descendents of slaves has nothing to do with Abraham or the sons of Noah. Abraham and Noah existed long before Black Americans came into existence. Furthermore, Abraham and Noah are of the Hebrew race. The Bible is all about the Hebrew race. In other words, the Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people to the world of how God have helped them in their times of troubles with other race of people as well as personally helping them. Black Americans came into existence long after the Bible was composed.
Mr. Gregory collecting facts and arranging them in a straight chronological line is not something easily done?
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, October 20th 2009 at 8:29AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Mr. Brown,
You replied using just the letter, M. What am I supposed to do with the letter, M?
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, October 20th 2009 at 7:05PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Mr. Brown,
I believe I understand better than you do what is in your mind and how you meant to express it. Let me help you to understand what is in your mind since you have it all abstract.
I honestly believe that you would like to see Black Americans a sovereign people but you do not have any faith that would happen.
So, I will go ahead and correct some of your abstract thoughts and as I do that perhaps you will see things in a straight line and rationally.
Firstly, Black Americans are not African Americans. Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. Black Americans are the people that came from the breeding process between White men and the first wave of African slave women. This breeding process ended after the Civil War. By then Black Americans numbered well over 20 million people. We are neither African nor Caucasians since we numbered over 20 million by the end of the Civil War, which made us a new breed or race of people that emerged from the ashes of slavery.
Furthermore, an African-American is an African person in America with citizenship. What distinctly separates a Black American from an African-American is that an African-American did not experience the horrors of slavery. If you care to challenge me on this concept, it is your right.
Now, as far as Mr. Elijah Muhammad is concern, I believe that he had a heart felt desire to see Black Americans have complete independence. However, he did not quite understand how to shape this desire since he was not the anointed one and was misled by Mr. Fard Muhammad to pick up the religion of Islam.
We know that Elijah could not have been the anointed one since he claimed he was a Muslim and embrace the Arabian religion of Islam. Our Chosen One will not claim anything existing since everything in existence belongs to another people. Our genuine prophet will be promoting and advocating everything new for us since we are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. In other words, what God have for us is all new and belongs specifically to us and not taking from another people as the religion of Islam is taken from the Arabian people. In fact, our religion is “The Salvation of God for Black Americans who are Descendents of Slaves.” This religion is new. No one knows it yet, except me.
Now, as far as Mr. Farrakhan goes, Mr. Farrakhan neither advocates nor promotes the sovereignty or complete independence of Black Americans. I promote and advocate our sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders that we could pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. This portion we will inherit from our ancestors. Therefore, Mr. Farrakhan could not be our Chosen One either.
Lastly, since you think that I am proposing a separate territory psychologically and subliminally tells me that you are not able to see yourself along with your people, Black Americans, sovereign people and in a country of our own. I do not fault you for having this kind of slave mentality since the Hebrew people had the same mindset as well when Moses came to lead them out of bondage. The Hebrew people psychologically and subliminally could not see themselves separated from Pharaoh and thriving on their own. They used the same terminologies as you. They express themselves to Moses using words as separated rather than using words that express independence and possession as leaving Egypt to have their Promised Land. Other terminology you use is the First Amendment, which belongs to White America. You feel that Black Americans should be proud to have, but it is not really from our own ingenuity. The first amendment is a good amendment and it rightfully belongs to White American people passed down to them from their forefathers. This type of thinking tells me you lack the mental abilities to see yourself and your people as real people in this world. In other words, how much more would you be proud if we, as a people could have our own type First Amendment? For that to be possible, it must first be possible in your mind. However, what is in your mind all belongs to White America. Consequentially, you are not mentally free yet. My divine task is to plant the seed of sovereignty or complete independence in your mind. In other words, I am to free you in your mind first before God will physically free us. The same as what happened with Moses and the Hebrew people. If you were the anointed one you would be talking to me as I am talking to you.
As Moses came to free his people mentally and physically, God has anointed me to do the same for my people.
I hope you understand the gist of what I just typed.
If you wish to respond, please do.
Wednesday, October 21st 2009 at 12:02AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Gene,
I understand how gracious you feel about this 40-acre plot of land. I believe that General Sherman was the driving force behind this idea. However, it is my understanding that it did not go through. Nevertheless, this is not the concept of sovereignty that God has inspired me with as Black Americans permanent solution. In the interim, please not look at yourself and Black Americans as subservient people.
Firstly, our permanent solution could only come from an entity greater than White America and ourselves. Somewhat as what happened with God, Moses and Pharaoh concerning the Hebrew peoples permanent solution of the Exodus.
Again, the 41million Black Americans who are descendents of slaves are not African Americans.
What I am trying to present to you Gene is that the results of our divine transformation is God’s intentions to make us a proud, worthwhile producing people that the world will marvel. In other words, when God does anything it is done in a major way.
In other words, the difference in this 40 acre deal and our sovereignty given to us by God is that White America, history and the world could say that White America gave their former slaves 40 acres and a mule. However, by God given us sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders, not White America, history and the world could say they gave us anything. Since we are going to become sovereign people, our complete independence must be free of all human claims. Our gratefulness must be to God and God only. Consequentially, we will have a ritual type celebration as the significance of the Hebrew peoples Passover to them.
The Egyptian people, history and the ancient world could not lay claim that Pharaoh was so gracious that he let the Hebrew people go. As I said when God does, anything it is done in a major way and for that, the Passover is the Hebrew people’s way of showing their gratefulness to God.
Do you get the picture of what I am saying?
Tell me what you think.
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, October 21st 2009 at 12:47AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Gene,
When you said you would tell me what you think after you get the revelation I get the impression that you are being sarcastic, I understand.
What is important to me though is that you understand what I saying. Supposedly we are here to help each other even if it boils down to just me helping you. Nevertheless, we are both getting across the finish line as one unit.
Mr. Gene our time as a people, that is, Black Americans who are descendents of slaves has come. We are going to be a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.
We must face any challenges and overcome them that nature hurls at every sovereign people and country to be an independent people.
Sovereignty is a tremendous responsibility but it also reaps tremendous rewards. Black Americans has never been a real people and we could never become a real people by staying invisible and behind White American people.
God has begun almost 3 years ago the process of doing for us what was done for the children of Israel in Egypt that brought them out of bondage.
There is no need for me to ask you what you think because you will probably be sarcastic again.
Okay
Wednesday, October 21st 2009 at 9:13PM
Harry Watley
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/*
Thank you Brother Watley! The enlightenment is well received!
Peace Be Unto You!
SANKOFA, My Brother,
Greg.
*/
Thursday, October 22nd 2009 at 12:56PM
Gregory V. Boulware, Esq.
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Hello Gregory,
You said this, “Thank you Brother Watley! The enlightenment is well received!”
Gregory, it was my pleasure.
Thank you
Thursday, October 22nd 2009 at 7:24PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Clark,
Clark let me see if I understand you correctly. The point that you are making is that America a melting pot, okay. Now, your concept of this melting pot is that every body will intermarry. As a result, you are saying that within a hundred years no one will be able to tell what race he or she is. Am I right?
I would like to be clear before I respond what I just said is what is in your mind. My concept of America being the melting pot of the world is different from what I think your concept is. My concept is that America is a place our country that all races of people could come to and be successful or achieves the American dream. My concept has nothing to do with intermarriage. Therefore, would you please clarify what you meant by (that there will be more blurring between the races).
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, October 22nd 2009 at 8:10PM
Harry Watley
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A wonderful thought, Sister Irma.
Friday, October 23rd 2009 at 4:37AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Irma,
I understand what you are saying about yesterday today and tomorrow. All that you are doing is philosophizing.
However, my message is for the most part about an entire people, e.g. Black Americans while yours is mainly about individuals. Individuals cannot move beyond their people. You do not understand that and what it will take you to understand only God knows.
So really, you have not said anything relevant.
What say you?
Friday, October 23rd 2009 at 3:52PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Harry,
Nothing positive escapes you, does it?
Friday, October 23rd 2009 at 4:19PM
Steve Williams
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Well my understanding is that all 41 million black people of America will follow him en masse within 20 years or so. Harry seems to think race (or breed) and person are one and the same. (And yes Harry, this is indeed what you said when I proposed that religion is a personal choice. And I will back it up with your own words if needed.)
Friday, October 23rd 2009 at 8:29PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Ms. Irma,
You are not on the same frequency as I am. Somehow, you do not understand what I have been talking about since we became acquainted on BIA. Let me go over it with you again.
I see that Black Americans subliminally and out right talks about our problems of racism and subjugation we have always had to deal with in White America as a people. I also know that when people talks about us in this country and in other countries through out the world they refer to us as a people and not as individuals. Therefore, individualism goes out the window. I know that I am right about that.
I have said that I am Black American’s first genuine Prophet and you all make mockery of it. I said that God has anointed me with a solution, which is sovereignty. Sovereignty is our only permanent solution. I said that we would become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. This portion is due to us from our ancestors and we will inherit it. I explained all of this by contrasting and comparing Moses and the Hebrew people plight when they were in bondage in Egypt in an effort that I would be better understood. Instead, you all continue to make mockery of me.
Therefore, when you say something as this, “Harry are you saying that you are not an "INDIVIDUAL"???” Apparently, you do not really understand the gist of what I have been saying all this time.
Of course, I am an individual. However, I as an individual have nothing to do with my divine task and Black Americans being one people and not individual persons. Sure, Moses was an individual. However, his individuality had nothing to do with his divine task to lead his people out of bondage. You remember that Exodus, do you not? None of the Hebrew people walked out of Egypt as individuals, they all walked out as the Hebrew people.
Ms. Irma, I do not know how much better I could explain things to you. I personally do not think that you are so ignorant that you do not understand what I am saying that we are not individuals we are a people. I feel that you and Steve are being hard asses since you cannot rationally explain to me that I am wrong or irrational about all the things that I have said.
Okay.
Friday, October 23rd 2009 at 9:33PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Steve,
I do not quite understand what you mean that race and person are one in the same. Would you please use what you mean in a sentence or at explanation in one or two paragraphs? Because, I do not really understand what you mean.
Okay.
Friday, October 23rd 2009 at 9:38PM
Harry Watley
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/*
I see that this is contiuing...good! People need to view this conversation. For those who cannot...I've posted a small taste of the text in:
“Descendant”
http://gboulwaredescendants.blogspot.com/
This conversation is powerful and profane. It must be conveyed to the masses!
SANKFA...
Peace and Love To You All,
Greg.
*/
Friday, October 23rd 2009 at 10:39PM
Gregory V. Boulware, Esq.
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Hello Harry,
It is interesting that I must remind you what your own thoughts are:
"Hello Steve,
I am prompted to make the same old corrections for you to put you back on the right track.
Firstly, you said this, “Religion is a personal thing, it does not belong to this or that race of people.”
Your comment expresses a positive and a negative as a single truth, which indicates you do not understand what you are saying, so let me explain.
Yes, religion is a personal thing for a particular people. So, the first part of your sentence true. For instance, Islam is a personal thing to the Arabian people since no other people could feel what Islam did to and for the Arabian people moving them paganism to the belief in one God, Allah.
The same principle that slavery, if you will is personal to Black Americans since no other people could feel and talk about what slavery has done to Black Americans, but Black Americans themselves. It should not be difficult to understand what I am saying.
So, yes, religions are a personal to different races of people who has their own religion. Religions has to be a personal thing to each respective race since religions comes into existence when a particular people is blessed with a genuine prophet from God, as Prophet Moses was a genuine prophet and Prophet Mohammed was a genuine prophet as well. What I just type is it logical to you or does it make any sense to you?
Now, if you could acknowledge that religions are a personal thing to a particular race as Islam is to Arabs so is Judaism is to Jews then how could you say, that religion does not belong to this or that race of people? Of course, religion must belong to this or that people since a particular race of people have their own religion that is different from another people as I pointed out with the Arabs and the Jews, each has their own personal religion.
I hope you would understand what I am typing to you because the point that I am making is not difficult to understand.
Incidentally, the religion of Black Americans who are descendents of slaves is, The Salvation of God for Black Americans who are Descendents of Slaves. So, Black Americans being a particular race of people has their own religion, which is different from the Arabs and Jews. Do you understand my point? Therefore, different religions do belong to this or that people. Am I right or am I wrong?
Tell me what you think."
Let me try to be as clear as possible. If you say that religion is personal to a race, does that indicate you have a proper understanding of the English word "person"?
Saturday, October 24th 2009 at 5:59AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
Steve all I asked you to do was to explain to me what you meant that race and a person are one in the same. I asked you to please your self, using a sentence or a paragraph explaining what you meant that race and a person are the same.
My mind interpret race to be intangible while a person is a tangible object. So, I do not understand what you mean that race and a person are the same.
Why you have become so defensive is not necessary. I am not accusing you of anything wrong. I am simply saying to you that I do not understand what you meant. Please explain to me that race and a person are the same.
I am still waiting.
Now, I said that religion is personal to a particular race since each race supposedly is to have their own religion. For instance, the Hebrew people religion is Judaism. The Arabian people are Islam. Therefore, when I said that religion is personal to a particular race is saying something different from what you are saying when you said that race and a person is one in the same.
I suppose that if you spent your energy honestly trying to understand what I am saying rather than looking to make me wrong, we could have better dialogues.
Anyhow, I am still waiting for you to explain that race and a person is the same.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, October 24th 2009 at 9:07AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Harry,
Race and a person is not the same. It is you that have improperly used the word when you say, yet again, "religion is personal to a particular race". Definition of personal: "Of or relating to a particular person". I hope we can agree that a person is not the same thing as a race? Let me try again. An individual (in my world, not yours) is free to embrace any religion he/she wishes, regardless of ancestry. This is almost too obvious to even have to argue the point.
Saturday, October 24th 2009 at 6:05PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
Okay Steve, we overcame one hurdle, that is race, and a person is not the same thing.
Now, the next hurdle is for you understand that my statement is correct when I said that religion is personal to a particular race. Although I explained it previously, you still did not understand.
I gave an example when I said that the religion of Islam is personal particularly to the Arabian people as the religion of Judaism is personal particularly to the Jewish people. Please pay attention that I am not talking about an individual as I am talking about a particular race of people.
The Arabian people were pagan believers. Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and he labored hard to rid his people of paganism and converted them to Islam. The Arabian people had battles among themselves. Finally, after 13 years Prophet Mohammed overcame paganism. Consequentially, the religion of Islam specifically and particularly came to the Arabian people for the express purpose of ridding them of paganism, and this is why religion is personal to a particular race.
Something else you must understand is that religion is tied into a specific problem of the people. God anoints prophets and they come to resolve specific problems and simultaneously leave a religion to the people.
For example, the religion of Black Americans is, “The Salvation of God for Black Americans who are Descendents of Slaves.” I am Black Americans first genuine prophet. Notice how Black Americans’ religion is specifically and particularly tied into ridding Black Americans of racism and subjugation as well as becoming a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders by the use of the word, SLAVES and SALVATION. I hope you have a better understanding now, how religion is personal to a particular race.
Now back to Prophet Mohammed, I could imagined that during these difficult years the Arabian people at dinner time and at leisure time, discussed nothing but Prophet Mohammed and the religion of Islam. Could you not see for yourself within all this turmoil approximately 1400 years ago why the religion of Islam is specifically and particularly personal to the Arabian people?
Now, even though Robert has adopted the religion of Islam it could never be personal to him as it is specifically and particularly personal to the Arabian people. Do you understand my point now?
For instance, what race will understand how Black Americans’ religion is specifically and particularly personal to Black Americans? Do you understand my point Steve?
So again, religion is personal to a particular race. What I have just explained is entirely different from an individual is free to embrace any religion he/she wishes. You are saying something entirely different from what I am saying that religion is personal to a specific and particular race. You need to understand what I am saying since you are saying something entirely different that I am.
What say you?
Saturday, October 24th 2009 at 7:49PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Harry,
Okay, we can move beyond our language barrier and discuss substance. I understand you to be saying that Black Americans should not be Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, but only Thesalvationofgodforblackamericanswhoaredescendantsofslavesists?
Saturday, October 24th 2009 at 8:36PM
Steve Williams
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It might be easier though to just call your future followers Watleyans, as you are the divine instrument to bring forth this new religion.
Saturday, October 24th 2009 at 8:47PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
You said this, “It might be easier though to just call your future followers Watleyans,”
Well Steve, Black Americans are not believers in me (Watleyans). They are believers in God. I am nothing. Prophet Mohammed was nothing. Moses was nothing. God is everything.
For instance, Prophet Mohammed called the converts from paganism to Islam, Muslims. There is no such thing as Mohammedans, there is no such thing as Mosesians and there is no such thing as Watleyans. Do you catch my drift?
On the other hand, Black Christians are not believers in God; they are believers in the man call Christ Jesus. My people, Black Americans practices paganism and are entirely oblivious of it.
Anyway, your suggestion that I call Black Americans Watleyans, perhaps you are just being a wise ass as usual. Nevertheless, you could appreciate the tremendous task that I have to deal with, planting the seed of sovereignty in the minds of Black Americans given to me by God.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, October 25th 2009 at 1:03AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Harry,
You could say I am being a wise ass, but you must see the way you come across with your focus on yourself rather than on the cause you promote. To say that you and only you have the permanent solution, the only one God has anointed and inspired, the only one with any wisdom, while all the rest are ignorant, this is what inspired me to use the term Watleyan. So check yourself so others don't have to.
Sunday, October 25th 2009 at 8:54AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
You said this, “but you must see the way you come across with your focus on yourself rather than on the cause you promote.”
What I see Steve is something that naturally happens in human nature. What you have said of me has been said of every prophet. The people have always falsely accused their prophets of puffing himself up.
The Pharisees falsely accused Jesus of blasphemy when they claimed that Jesus said he was God and should be put to death. So, you are no different in Jesus and Moses time.
You are falsely accusing me of being more than my message of sovereignty that God has given to me as Black Americans only permanent solution. Your behavior affirms that I am a Prophet when compared and contrasted to the prophets before me and how the people dealt with them.
Anyway, Steve, my message is greater than I am. My message of sovereignty or complete independence of Black Americans on a portion of this continent is greater than I am and it is going to happen.
Next, you said this, “To say that you and only you have the permanent solution, the only one God has anointed and inspired, the only one with any wisdom, while all the rest are ignorant, this is what inspired me to use the term Watleyan.”
The part of your comment is true. I am the only one to have the permanent solution, but what is exciting about it, is that I am backed by God while no one else is. Same thing as it was with Moses. Moses was the only one to have the permanent solution for the Hebrew people, which was the Exodus. However, what was exciting about the permanent solution of the Exodus was that Moses was the only Hebrew that God backed since Moses solution came from God and not from himself. Do you understand where I am coming from, Steve?
Now, the last part of your comment when you said why you were inspired to use the term, “Watleyans” I believe is a lie. What was really in your mind was malice and mockery towards me.
Anyway, Steve, it will take more than 24 hours for Black Americans and you to believe the things that I say. Likewise, it took Moses approximately 20 years before the Hebrew people began to show signs that they believe Moses was their prophet. It took Prophet Mohammed 13 years. How long it will take me, I do not know.
The dilemma that prophets have are that if they tell the people who they are at first by human nature the people with malice and mockery focus their attention on the prophet rather than the message. On the other hand, the prophet is obligated from the beginning to disclose to the people who they are since they come in the name of God and what they came to do. I would suppose that is why it takes them such a long time before the people acknowledges and accepts them, because the prophets has to overcome the malice and mockery of the people. Do you not see that every body on BIA mocks and denies me, yet they could not say that I am wrong about anything? Does that make any sense to you Steve?
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, October 25th 2009 at 2:52PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Earl,
I am glad you found what I said interesting, that our people practices paganism since they compare and contrast the physical being of Christ Jesus with God and is entirely oblivious that this is practicing paganism.
Well, Earl the shortness and rational explanation for this ignorance is that White America taught Black Americans how we should believe in God. White America has been our person, leader, teacher and guide in everything since we were a made people out of slavery. Black Americans literally speaking do not have a mind of our own and I want this to change.
I am very disturbed that we practice paganism, that we were born in slavery and we belongs to White American people still to this day, that we are subjugated people. I want most from God that we become a sovereign people or have complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.
Now, in the process of coming out of our ignorance, many things will unfold, but most of all we will not be pagans anymore. We must return the religion of White America to White Americans and embrace our religion, The Salvation of God for Black Americans who are Descendents of Slaves.
Okay
Sunday, October 25th 2009 at 3:14PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Ms. Theresa,
You said this, “but in the end all will be reveled and judged.”
Well Theresa, Black Americans just cannot wait for the end to reveal what our profile will be a hundred years from now. We know that it is bad now, it will not get any better without the intervention of God, and God has intervened.
For instance, if Moses and the Hebrew people had waited for the end to reveal their outcome a hundred years in the future they probably would still have been in bondage in Egypt, am I right. They just could not wait. God had intervened and said to Moses.
I guess the way you think is one of the ways to show how intelligence is not one of Black Americans disciplines.
In other words, why would you want to wait to the end and not be grateful that God has intervened and sent us a prophet? Our prophet will lead us into complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders as God did send Moses to lead the Hebrew people out of bondage in Egypt.
I guess the question you should ask yourself Theresa is whether you want your race to be free.
Tell me what you think.
Friday, November 27th 2009 at 11:08AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Ms. Theresa,
You said this, “If I told you what I think you would come back with something else that does not make any sense to me”
In this case, perhaps what you would come back with would not make any sense to begin with which would save me the trouble of responding to you.
Ms. Theresa, stop playing games. All you are doing is conjecturing out of thin air. Intelligent people do not do what you are doing now. If you have something in mind, give it to me. I am not against you. You are one of me as I am one of you. We both belong to the same race, Black Americans who are descendents of slaves. We both want the same thing and that is, we want to be sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.
We are going to inherit a portion of this continent.
So again, if you have something to say, say it to me.
Tell me what you think.
Friday, November 27th 2009 at 10:24PM
Harry Watley
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Me, I believe the future always depends on what is done today.example, if there is no today then there can be no tomorrow or one must have a beginning to be able to have a present and then a future...
The future depends on that individual at that present time.(smile)and if my children's children's children's childfen's continue the path that they travel then in one hundred years we will have a beautiful, green, save and secure society on planet earth or where ever man decides to move on to in this universe...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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1. Harry are you saying that you are not an "INDIVIDUAL"?????????
2. Steve would you agree with me that Harry must not be an individual, because he said an individual can not move beyond their people and yet how he is going to bring all Black people back to one place in America...if I can not move away from my black people then how /why soes he need to do anything or does he mean SOME BLACK PEOPLE, not all BLACK PELPLE?!? I ask you steve becAuse AS YOU WELL KNOW Harry does not allow any questions not even about this land we (some)Blacks are suppose to be going to led by him...
any way....(smile)
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